Even with something as simple as tenkara, choosing your first tenkara rod may seem daunting. There are decisions to be made in terms of fish targeted and waters fished. In this episode, Daniel will walk you through the lineup of tenkara rods, tenkara lines and tenkara flies offered by Tenkara USA to help you choose your first tenkara rod.
Hint: if you are having a hard time choosing, just get the adjustable Sato rod by Tenkara USA, it is ultra-light, covers the main lengths of tenkara rods, and will be a versatile rod in small and large waters alike.
This is Daniel Galhardo and you’re listening to the Tenkara Cast. A podcast about the simple Japanese method of fly fishing, tenkara. In the Tenkara Cast, we will be sharing information on techniques, history, philosophy and tenkara stories from anglers all over the world. This podcast is brought to you by Tenkara USA, introducing tenkara outside of Japan since 2009. It’s only possible we create content such as this podcast and videos because of your support, so we thank you so very much for purchasing Tenkara USA rods, lines and flies. I hope you enjoy learning more about the simple method of fly fishing.
Hey everyone, thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Tenkara Cast. I hope you have been enjoying the different thoughts and interviews and episodes that I have been putting out in this podcast. We’ve had some requests for me to talk about gear, more specifically the tenkara rods, lines and flies that we offer and how to go about deciding which ones to get. I thought this would be timely, because we’ve talked about gear that I use outside of the rods, lines and flies and with holiday sales coming around the corner, I thought it’ll be very good for this episode to come out right now. I do not like to see this podcast as a vehicle to sell stuff, but a lot of people have been asking for this and I do think it’s important to understand how to decide which rod, line and fly to get because even though tenkara is simple and when we go out we’re not carrying much stuff, I totally recognize that when we’re shopping for the tenkara rod, the first tenkara rod especially, like anything else you… There’s… It’s kind of daunting. We don’t have a huge number of options, but how do we… How does one go about selecting the right rod, the right line and the right fly to start fishing with?
So today’s episode, I’m gonna give a very brief overview of the equipment used in tenkara and then I’m gonna talk specifically about the line up of rods that we offer at Tenkara USA. I’m gonna talk about the different… The two different lines that we offer for tenkara and then our four flies, and the flies are probably the easier part ’cause it’s more on the philosophy and that kind of thing. But let’s talk about the overview of the equipment that you need to use for tenkara rods.
First of all, on average a tenkara rod is 12 feet long. All tenkara rods that we offer are telescopic, they all telescope down to an average of about 20 inches or so, nine segments give or take. A couple of rods… Three of the rods that we offer. We have five different rod options and I’ll talk about those specifically in a few minutes, but some of them are adjustable. You can fish them in three different lengths or two different lengths. Some of them are designed to fish in one specific length. Let me back track a little bit. 12 feet is an average length of a tenkara rod. At the end of the rod you’re going to be tying a line, a fixed length of line. Usually, it’s going to be about the same length as a rod when you’re just beginning, at the end of your tenkara line, you’re going to tie approximately four feet of tippet. Tippet is just a thin fishing line that goes between the line and the fly, and then you have fly. There’s no need for leaders in tenkara, in the traditional tenkara lines that are offered by us. You just go straight from tenkara line, tippet, fly and that’s it, no need to complicate things with leaders.
Now, I mentioned that tenkara rods are on average 12 feet long. If you’re coming from a western fly fishing background that might sound really long, but essentially we’re substituting running line for a rod. You can ask anybody and they’ll tell you that once you start fishing with a tenkara rod, 12 feet is really not that long. It’s not nearly as intimidating as it sounds. So I just want to put that to rest early on that, yeah, it sounds long but that’s the average length of a rod and you get used to it very quickly. Now let me talk specifically about the line-up of rods that we offer, why we have different rod models and how we go about deciding which rods to get. So our rods range from 8 feet 10 inches to 14 feet 7 inches and there’s five different rod models that we offer.
The first one I’m going to go ascending order of length. I’m going to start with the shortest and talk about the longest at the end. The shortest rod that we offer is the Rhodo, R-H-O-D-O and we named it after Rhododendron which is a tree that is all over eastern streams in particular, and it tends to make the streams very tight and requires a shorter rod. So the first rod in our line up is the Rhodo and the Rhodo is a cool rod ’cause it’s an adjustable rod, you can fish it at three different lengths. You can fish it at 8 feet 10 inches, 9 feet 8 inches, 10 feet 6 inches. They’re specifically designed to be fished at those three different lengths by a little bulge in one of the segments and also there’s a special plug that we developed to hold everything in place.
The next rod up from the Rhodo in terms of length is gonna be the Sato. The Sato is also an adjustable rod and you can fish it at three three different lengths, but it’s a little bit longer. You can fish it at 10 feet 8 inches, 11 feet 10 inches, 12 feet 9 inches. The Rhodo is probably our bread and butter, our main recommendation, that covers the main lengths of tenkara rods on average, very versatile kind of rod.
After the Rhodo we have the Iwana, the Iwana is the name of a fish in Japan and it’s probably… It’s actually one of the very first rods that we developed. We’ve had a couple of different iterations of the Iwana, but it’s been one of our most popular rods since we started selling it. The Iwana is designed to be fished at 12 feet long, so it’s not an adjustable rod, it’s still a telescopic rod but not adjustable. It’s also a great value rod, it’s a little cheaper because you don’t have the adjustability and that kind of thing.
After the Iwana, we have the Amago. And the Amago is a 13 and a half foot long rod and it’s what we classify as our big fish rod. So if you know you’re constantly gonna be catching larger fish, and by larger I mean 18, 20-inch fish, and over, very often, the Amago is the rod to look at.
And after that we have the fifth and last rod in our line-up, we have the Ito. And the Ito is an adjustable rod that you can fish at 13 feet long or 14 feet seven inches. So that kinda gives you the sense of the lengths of the tenkara rods. And that’s gonna be the primary distinction among all of the rods that we offer, is gonna be the length. Over time I have kinda simplified the rod options in terms of action and that kind of thing. They all fish somewhat similarly. The length is gonna be the main distinction with the exception of the Amago that has a lot more beefiness to it, a lot more backbone and that kind of thing. It’s our big fish rod.
Now, how do you go about deciding which rod to get? And that’s a very common question. And before I delve into that, I wanna put something to rest here, and I wanna make your, kind of put your mind at ease a little bit. Don’t overthink the decision too much. Because the rods, regardless of the rod that you get, you can use it in a variety of different waters. They’re not so specialized that, like the Amago for example, it’s our big fish rod, it’s not so specialized that when you catch a small fish you’re not gonna feel anything or anything like that. It might be a little bit too long in some smaller kind of streams, but you can always kind of choke up on the grip and that kind of thing. You can use it in a variety of different waters. But what I’m gonna be talking about here more specifically is how to choose the best first rod that you can for the kinds of waters you fish the most.
But again, don’t overthink it too much, whatever rod you get you will get used to the feel of it and you’ll have a great time with it regardless. But there’s two main decision points here that I think we have to keep in mind when we’re choosing a rod. The main one is gonna be the kind of water you’re fishing. And by kind of water you’re fishing, I mean the vegetation around it and the width of the stream, how wide or how big the water is. How big the stream or the river is. And then, so the kind of water you’re fishing, talking about vegetation around you, and the water itself. And then the second point is gonna be the size of fish.
Let me talk about size of fish first, because that kinda gets… It simplifies our choices a little bit more quickly. Any of the tenkara rods work great for the 10 to 20-inch fish. But if you know that you’re gonna constantly be targeting larger, fish and by larger I mean, let’s say 17-inch trout and over. Or you’re going after bass quite a bit. Then, the one rod that I’d really like to recommend you look at is the Amago. The Amago is what we classify as our big fish rod. If you’re gonna be fishing for a variety of kinds of fish and occasionally might hook at 20 incher, any of the rods will work fine. So that kinda gets that out of the way, right away.
Now, let’s talk about types of water. And actually I should mention… In terms of size of fish, even our lightest rod will handle the occasional 20-inch fish, and that kind of thing. The Amago is just what makes it easier to bring the fish in a little bit more quickly because we can build a little extra resistance into it. The Ito is a good option as well, if you’re targeting larger fish, ’cause you get a longer rod, a little bit more leverage to play fish with, and it just works really well as well. So those two rods I would say are, if you’re targeting larger fish in bigger waters.
Now, let’s talk about types of waters that you’re fishing. When it comes to types of waters as I mentioned, there’s two things to keep in mind, vegetation and the size of the water itself. So vegetation is the kind of tree that we find around us and on top of us. Ask yourself, are you fishing waters that have tons of canopy right overhead and maybe the canopy is like only 15, 20 feet high. Is it like a kind of deciduous kind of trees that kinda shoot over the stream or is it more evergreens that stay on the side of the streams? When it comes to vegetation if you have a lot of canopy and just a lot of foliage a shorter rod is gonna start feeling a little bit easier ’cause you can control things a little bit more, you can stay away from those branches that hang overhead more easily.
If you have more like an open stream with pine trees, like evergreens on the shores, you can get away with longer rods much more easily. So with that in mind there’s a… As a general rule or as a generalization, we’re finding that people that are fishing Eastern streams like the Appalachian mountains for example, in places that are very, very lush and dense they tend to like the shorter rods, like the Rhodo, for example. If you’re fishing western kind of streams, and this is a generalization, it’s not across the board, but Western streams where you have a lot of pine trees and evergreens we can get away with longer rods. So first of all, shoot for getting the longest rod that you can, for the kind of water you’re gonna be fishing.
Now, the Sato is kind of our main recommendation. I’m gonna start here, I’m gonna talk about the rods and kinda how we recommend them, and then you can probably make a decision based on that, as opposed to talking about vegetation because whatever rod you’re gonna get, you’re gonna be fishing a variety of types of waters anyways. The Sato is that adjustable rod that you can fish from 10 feet 8 inches to 12 feet 9 inches. That’s our main recommendation, pretty much across the board. That gives you a good longer rod for when you want it. But also pretty short length, 10 and a half feet or 10 feet 8 inches, that is on the shortest end of the Sato. It’s a very short tenkara rod to begin with. So the Sato covers the main lengths, it’s one that we really like to recommend because of that.
If you wanna fish it even shorter, you can hold it above the handle and essentially you can effectively fish the Sato at about 9 1/2 or 9 feet long approximately. Very short in terms of the tenkara rods. But if you’re fishing, and this is the water that you’re fishing the most. The Sato is the one that I really like to recommend. The one next to that, just probably the Iwana, the Iwana is a 12-foot long rod. If you choke up on the grip you can fish it at around 11 feet or so. And the Sato is a… It’s got the adjustable feature, it’s got this place to put a plug in that we developed, it’s kind of unique because you don’t lose the plug. The Iwana is just a really good value, good, good rod for the price. Those are the main recommendations, start looking at those.
But if you’re telling yourself that you’re fishing very tight waters all the time, your favorite kind of water is gonna be headwaters and very dense canopy kind of places, then look at the Rhodo. The Rhodo is the shortest rod in our line up, 8 feet 10 inches to 10 1/2 feet, at the shortest length. If you were to grip above the handle in the blank of the rod, you can effectively fish with the rod around 7 1/2 feet long, so very short, you can get really, really short. And I considered the Rhodo little bit more of a specialized rod if you know you’re fishing very tight waters most often. And then we have the Ito, the Ito is our longest rod. It’s a little bit more specialized on the other end of the spectrum, 13 feet or 14 feet 7 inches, it’s one of those adjustable rods. And it’s the primary one that I like to recommend if you’re fishing bigger kinds of water, like the Madison River, the Delaware, waters that are… And by water rivers, I mean like 60 feet across, something like that, where, it can be in the water maybe or it’s gonna usually be a little bit more open but you want extra reach and that kind of thing.
As I mentioned earlier, any of the rods can be used interchangeably in a variety kind of water, and try to get the longest rod you can. Personally, I actually use the Ito almost everywhere. Once you get used to the longer length of tenkara rods and how to maneuver them, you can start using them in a lot of different kinds of waters you might not expect. My home water here is Boulder Creek here in Boulder, Colorado, it’s about from 30 to 40 feet across, 40 feet being a very white part of it. On average, it’s probably about 30 feet across. Some places have canopy, some places are more like pine trees on the outsides on the shore, I use the Ito in around 13 feet long, pretty much all the time there ’cause I’m used to the longer length. And I use a shorter line than the rod is, so I use 13-foot 7 inch rod with about 12 to 13 feet of line when I use that rod in the Boulder Creek. And I mentioned that just to give you a sense that you can use one rod in a variety kinds of waters as well.
Again, let’s look at the Sato first, is kind of adjustable rod. If you can afford it, it’s a great rod, very lightweight feeling on the hand. It’s got a nice feature to prevent you from losing the plug, it’s adjustable. It’s the rod that I designed to kind of eliminate the anxiety of trying to choose a rod. The Iwana is a good value of that, 12-foot long rod. The Rhodos, our shortest rod and it’s gonna be good if you know you’re fishing very tight waters all the time. The Ito, it tends to be a really popular second rod for a lot of people, once you get used to the length of tenkara rods. The Ito is a longer, more intimidating rod in the beginning, but a lot of people get it as their second rod. I do love it if you’re fishing larger kinds of waters and you want something that… But you’re not necessarily just catching a lot of very large fish, I recommend the Ito. If you’re going after the large fish very often, the Amago is a great rod option.
So those are the five rods that we have in our line up. I’m hoping that this kinda gives you an idea of why they exist. We try to have pretty much no overlap or very little overlap between our rods. And we have to feel very strongly that there’s a reason for a rod to exist in our line up for us to offer it. We’ve discontinued a few rods and we kind of released a few new rods over the years. Trying to find this really kind of thing that makes a decision-making here very easy, very tight waters, all around kind of waters, a variety, then you get more on the middle lengths, big fish or big waters, that’s kinda how you can look at it. Five rods, one day we’ll have one rod that does it all but for now those five rods are what we offer, and I hope that this kinda gives you an idea of how to decide which rod to get. One rod can fish in a variety of waters really well, so don’t feel too much pressure to decide on the perfect rod. And if you wanna keep it simple, get the Sato or the Iwana, those are two great rods.
Now, let’s talk about lines. There’s two different lines that are typically used with tenkara and two lines that we offer, there’s the taper line and there’s a level line. The taper line and the level line are little bit different from each other, and there’s pros and cons. But if you wanna, and actually I’ll just talk about them first and I’ll find a way to help you keep it simple. The taper line, you either buy it or make it at a specific length. Our lines come in 11 feet or 13 feet for the taper lines. The advantage of the taper line is that it’s incredibly easy to cast and to set up, but honestly, there’s not a huge difference in terms of how long it’s gonna take you to learn how to cast the level line over the taper line. So we have the taper line and the level line. One of them, the taper line is a furled line that has to be hand-made and it’s got this texture to it and it’s a very specific length, you buy it at a specific length. The level line, on the other hand, it’s a line that looks a little bit more what most people recognize as a fishing line. It’s an extruded line designed specifically for casting with a tenkara rod and the level line comes in a spool of 65 feet, and then from there, you can cut whatever length you want. So it’s a little bit more versatile in that way.
One possible, I like to recommend people try both because it really comes down mostly to a matter of personal preference, with the two different types of lines. It’s not like one line is better for one condition or the other, and that kind of thing, a lot of times it’s a personal preference, how you kind of feel it casts. I personally am a level line guy, I use the level line only, one of my main teachers, that’s what he uses. I find that the versatility in the level line, where I can cut whatever length I want, I can join two lines together if I want to, I can cut some off when I’m fishing. I like that part of it, but let’s talk about the two different lines. Again, the taper line, you make it or buy a certain length, super easy to cast and set up the first time. It might take you two or three casts to learn how to cast it. The level line on the other hand, might take you six or seven casts, I mean it’s not a big difference here, but you can make it whatever length you want and you can adjust it as on the go if you really feel that you need to.
With the level line, things start getting a little bit more complex and only because we felt there was a need to cater to people that have been doing tenkara for some time. The level line comes in different weights as well and it’s not to be confused with the weights of western fly lines. It’s a little bit different from those, but the concept is the same, so the smaller the number, the lighter it is, the lighter it is, the more challenging it is gonna be to cast in different conditions, but you’re gonna be able to keep the line off the water more easily. So the level lines come in three different weights. We have a 2.5 weight, 3.5, 4.5, and we chose those weights because they’re, so they don’t get confused with western fly line weights, they’re very, very different, to give you a point of reference, the level line weights that are, it’s based on a Japanese numbering system, but roughly 2.5 is roughly about 10 pound test of fluorocarbon, 4.5 is about 17 pound test fluorocarbon, approximately, and I just mentioned this to kinda give you a sense of the diameters and that kind of thing.
But they’re designed specifically for casting with tenkara. The main difference between the level line and other lines is that we can see the line very easily. It’s a very opaque florescent kind of color. You need to be able to see your line. That’s one really important thing. And also, the stiffness and the weight, is just the right stiffness and weight for casting. Now, typically, when you’re at this point, when you’re looking at different weights of different level lines, you probably have been doing tenkara for a little bit longer, then you start wondering what the other lines feel like. To begin with, just pick the middle weight 3.5, that’s what I personally use across the board. I pretty much don’t use the other weights all that much, except for when I’m testing them. So, a little recap here, ’cause I know it can get a little complicated, a little daunting, but we have the taper line, which is super easy to cast, anybody can learn how to cast really, really quickly.
Some people like the soft feeling of the cast. Then we have the level line and the level line comes in three different weights, 2.5, 3.5, 4.5. To start off, if you’re gonna get one, pick the middle one. In terms of choosing between the two, if you don’t wanna think about it at all, you just wanna have one line just to kinda go fishing and not ever think much about it, get the taper line. If you want a little bit more flexibility and you kind of feel like this is a sport that you kinda really wanna play with and kind of experiment a little bit more with in terms of line lengths and that kind of thing, pick a spool of the level line. The level line is gonna be a little cheaper, you can make four, five lines out of one spool for the same price as one spool of the taper line. In terms of the weights of the level lines, 2.5 is gonna be easier to keep off the water, but really hard to cast, especially when it’s windy. 3.5 is just our bread and butter, that’s what we like to recommend. 4.5 is gonna sag a little bit more on the tip of the rod, but it’s gonna be easier to cast in general, but specifically or especially, more easily to cast when it’s windy. So those are the lines.
Now, for the lines, one of the only accessories that we have is a line holder. We do like to recommend you get a spool to hold the line and that’s just something that you can manage the line when you have to move from one place to the other, you have to have something to wrap it around. And we like the spool systems the best just because you can keep the line in one spool and then you can take the line away and having a home for it.
So I talked about the rods, talked about the lines. Let’s talk a little bit about the flies. Don’t have to talk a lot about them because we only have four flies that we offer on our website, very different from any other fly fishing kind of company. Now, first, before I even start, you can use any fly with tenkara. If you already have a fly fishing background, use whatever fly you’re used to, that’s fine. With tenkara, there’s a slightly different way of thinking about flies, where we’re not trying to imitate particular bugs, we’re not trying to create all these different elaborate patterns. Instead we’re using suggestive flies, so just about any bug out there and focusing on our presentation of that fly. A few episodes ago, I talked about techniques to present a fly. I highly recommend you listen to that, just to kind of get an idea what I’m talking about and I talk a little bit more about that in that episode. Any of the flies that we offer will work to catch fish. That’s the main point here.
If you come from a western fly fishing background, any of the flies you already use will catch fish, take a look at the tenkara flies, we have a lot of videos on our website and how to tie them as well if you tie flies. I find that the tenkara flies are very versatile, you can use it in a variety of situations and that kind of thing. But the common question that we get in terms of flies when people are just starting off and they need to pick up some flies, first, which flies? Second, how many flies? One of the things with fly fishing, tenkara or otherwise in western fly fishing is that, we will lose flies. That’s just part of the sport, we’re gonna get hung up on trees eventually and gonna have to break off. The amount of flies that you’re gonna go through in a particular day is gonna vary a lot. You might go through quite a few flies if it’s a very sense place and when you’re just starting off. Dense, I mean dense foliage and you’re just beginning. As you get experience, you start getting caught much less on the trees, but occasionally, you might have a day that you’re a little bit more distracted and it happens to me even, and I might lose a few more flies than usual.
Some days, I’m just really kind of into the fishing and I’m just kind of more focused, and even in dense foliage, I not even lose a single fly, even in a full day of fishing, that’s kind of rare, but I’d say on average an experienced angler might lose two or three flies in a kind of a medium density foliage kind of place, but in the beginning you might lose a dozen flies in a day. That’s a lot, yeah, I don’t expect you lose that many flies. But in terms of flies, which fly should you get? Any of the flies in our selection work. Size 12 is kind of like the middle standard size. Jason Sparks actually has a rule of 12s he says. You get a 12-foot rod, 12-foot line, size 12 fly. And I think that’s a really good rule Jason came up with, Jason Sparks and so on the flies, get the size 12 and you’ll be alright. The flies that we offer on our website, those are the ones that I personally use. My rule of thumbs are size 12 is kind of the standard, size eight, especially when the water is running a little faster or murkier, I wanna give the fish a chance to see my fly more easily.
Size 16, for places where there’s more pressure on the water and the fish are not taking anything else. So that’s how I kinda go about it. If you’re trying to put a fly box to get started, I would say a dozen or two dozen flies to begin with is a really good number and then you can get a variety, you can get one set of each of the flies is probably a good place to start or two sets of each flies if you wanna fill up a box a little bit more for a few more outings and that kind of thing. So the flies are kind of a simple part of it and there’s not a huge amount of decision making that you have to make when you’re buying it and it’s just one of those things, you’re probably gonna either buy them or tie them just to have a good variety and a good selection in your box anyways. Alright, so 30 minutes of talking about rods, lines and flies. Tenkara, it is a simple method of fishing, but you do have to spend a little bit of time shopping and trying to find the good, good items that you wanna get. And I’ll put a couple of plugs in here as well, since I’m talking about the rods, lines and flies that we offer.
At Tenkara USA, we have a really good warranty on our rods and really good customer service, period. When you’re buying the rod, if you find that you wish you had a different rod, you found that you purchased a wrong rod, just give us a shout, contact us and definitely, within 60 days, we’ll make an exchange for you without any problems, but just give us a shout if you need anything in terms of the rods. Also the other cool thing about the rods that we offer, if you were to ever break any of the rods that we offer, 99% of the cases, you never have to ship the rod back to us. Just contact our customer service department at 888-iTenkara, 888-483-6527. And what we do is, if you stepped on a segment, you broke a tip or whatever it is, we just send you the replacement parts that you need. So that’s something that we’ve developed that is really unique in the industry.
You don’t have to mail anything back to us, and you don’t have to be waiting a long time. And you don’t have to spend a money to ship the rod somewhere. We try to make it very quick and painlessly for you to replace the segments that might have broken, you just unscrew the cap on the bottom, remove whatever parts are broken, put a new one in. So that’s what we call Tenkara Care. That’s our warranty program. And I thought I’d mention it here ’cause it is an important decision factor in terms of choosing a rod. You wanna have good customer service and you want to be able to fix a rod that breaks quickly and easily, or if you’re buying a rod for somebody else, you want to be assured that a person, if the rod ever breaks for whatever reason, it can be repaired very easily.
So you can always give us a shout and we have a very responsive customer service team that will get your rod, up and running very quickly. So I hope that kinda helps. I was recently shopping for a nice axe, I’m actually an ice climber too, and I know it’s a very daunting process to select from what is out there, but at least we’re dealing here with five rod options. Very distinct, different lengths with an ice axe for climbing. Man, I was losing my mind trying to find the right ones. I was spending hours researching it. So hopefully this half an hour episode will be worth the while for you to listen to, and hopefully it will help you decide what rod you wanna get.
If you have any questions, email us email@example.com. Give us a call, 888-483-6527. Our guys, TJ and John, they answer the phone, and they’re both anglers, and they’re gonna be happy to answer questions that you might have about what rod to get, and hopefully you’ll find yourself with a tenkara rod in your hand, and fishing sometimes soon. But, just let us know too if you, you can always post the questions on our Facebook page, or on the tenkarausa.com/podcast page. Until next time on the Tenkara Cast.
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